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Occasionally, I pop over to Delaware Politics. There’s nothing like a big dose of crazy to keep a person focused, and FVoshell’s latest piece, aptly titled Us and Them, brings on a whole new level of crazy. It’s not just that she’s wrong – she is – it’s that she’s based her entire post on an conservative writer’s editorial that’s based on interpreting a poll. She’s also, as usual, linkless – other than the conservative editorial, she offers no other proof that what she claims is fact.
Which brings us back to her latest post. Us and Them. Needless to say, Conservatives and Liberals.
Her first point is that there are more conservatives than liberals – which is obviously very, very good news. As most of you know, I have more than my fair share of Republican friends and I have yet to hear any of them describe being “conservative” exactly the same way. There are shades of conservativism, just as there are shades of liberalism. But why deal with shades of gray when black and white is so much simpler to make your point? Even the article she dead links to offers up this line: Gloomy conservatives who comment on my articles propose reason to doubt this fabulous news. People, some conservatives seem to believe, really do not know what “conservative” means.
Love the use of the word gloomy.
She then goes on to point out how persecuted conservatives are due to liberal name-calling.
Republicans and other ordinary conservatives–those who have the temerity to want smaller government, lower taxes, states’ rights, traditional morality, among other things–could add to the list of names they are routinely given by liberals. Many conservatives have become almost used to the invective, and from what they see and hear on television, often believes themselves to be in the minority, sometimes feeling intimidated by the harassment they receive by the Left “majority.”
Lazy, lazy, lazy blogging, but it is much simpler to paint each side as good vs evil. Conservatives are for truth, justice and the American Way, while liberals are against these things and resort to name-calling. Love the traditional morality phrase tossed in at the end. In my opinion, she should have led with this phrase, spelled out in all caps. But the main problem with her assertion is that it doesn’t acknowledge the incidents that have led to a lot of the name calling. Surely acknowledging, and denouncing, the bad apples that have tarnished the conservative armor would have given the statement more… umph? But I understand that the closest conservatives get to criticizing their own ranks is the “both sides do it” argument. I’ve always hated this argument. It’s a childish cop-out, a way to avoid personal responsibility.
Once she moves past her non-point she offers her readers hope:
The truth of the matter is that conservatives outnumber liberals in every single state of the union, which means that even if a state like Delaware is called “Blue,” it really isn’t. Delaware, like all the rest of the states, is red. It’s just that the levers of control in the areas Walker mentions have been held by the blues.
What does this even mean? Delaware elects Democrats because it’s really Red? Have at it, because it makes no sense to me.
Of course, I’ve saved the best for last…
The above facts should be inspiring to those who are running as conservative Republicans and Libertarians, for if the conservative base in Delaware remains fired up during the next few days, candidates such as Urquhart and O’Donnell (among others) will indeed win.
That’s a pretty heady but realistic prospect.
Following the wins, the political complexion of Delaware inevitably will change to reflect the true conservative nature of the majority of voters in our little state.
Ignore, for a moment, the lack of facts, and focus on what she is predicting. Urquhart and O’Donnell win and the “true conservative nature of the majority of voters” will be revealed. And… Delaware will be the Red state it always was, even when it was Blue, but not really?
Actually, I lied. The quote above isn’t the last. It gets even better in the comment section. It also gets a little creepy.
FVoshell:
I guess I would say America has always suffered from polarization–”Them” vs. “Us.”But I don’t think the present sharp divide has seen its equal since the division before the Civil War. The divide is so strong, so across the board on so many issues, it’s as if we have two separate nations.
“…two political ideologies that when mixed together form an explosive charge that threatens to destroy both.”
I don’t think both will be destroyed. One will prevail over the other. If the Left in this nation prevails, we are looking at the destruction of the USA. If the Right prevails, we have the opportunity for restoration and renewal.
Rick:
I don’t think both will be destroyed. One will prevail over the other.One might first have to separate itself from the other.
FVoshell:
Rick,Maybe secession is the next step. But that would eliminate any chance for reform and would mean destruction of the USA.
But I think we’ve danced these steps before. 😉
The Civil War? Destruction of the USA? And a happy little discussion of secession – which I’m starting to believe conservatives really want. It’s sorta like… we either take over this country, or start our own. And it’s sad that talk of secession use to upset me and now only generates a shrug.
Wonder what happens if all their dreams don’t come true next Tuesday? I’m really not seeing them taking the losses very well. In fact, given all the talk of 2nd Amendment remedies, violent overthrow of the government, and secession combined with incidents that are forming a frightening pattern, I have no reason to hope for the best – actually, I’m hoping no one gets shot. Because, not only have they convinced themselves that they are absolutely right (and let’s be honest, we’re all guilty of that) but they truly believe that there is no other outcome other than their winning…
…since Delaware only looks Blue, but it’s really Red.
And that, dear reader, is dangerous delusion.
UPDATE: Yes, there’s already an update. This comment is worth it.
Rick:
Maybe secession is the next step. But that would eliminate any chance for reform and would mean destruction of the USA.
The U.S. is already being destroyed. The left, using their facilitators in Hollywood and the media, are teaching young girls to dress like whores at age twelve. Explicit sex-ed is being taught to 8-year-olds. Gay marriage and homosexuality is being promoted as ‘normal.’ Christianity is bashed and Islam is promoted as ‘a religion of peace.’ Patriotism is a vice and incivility is a virtue- soft porn and vulgarity are the norm on late-night television. Our children, especially in our colleges and universities, are being taught that American exceptionalism is a myth and that Marxism/Socialism is a superior political system. The left has made a religion of environmental extremism as a means of destroying the private energy sector.
These are cultural rather than purely political issues- hence, elections cannot significantly alter the status quo– the left will still control academia, media, Hollywood, music, ‘art,’ and thus, the culture.
The cultural schism is, I think, permanent. Conservative, traditional states should secede, and then wait for the old, corrupt, socialist states to fail- as they ultimately will.
Remember, the Left wants to make you a slave of the state.
“Creation Out of Destruction”
Tags: Conservatives, Delaware Politics
This sounds a lot like Glenn Beck’s “We surround them” stuff. Also I think the “Delaware is really red” stuff is part of the conservative purge. Conservatives have convinced themselves that everyone will love them once they see “true” conservatism because it’s never been tried.
Even if conservatives make very big gains I think a lot of them will be very disappointed with the outcome. I shudder at the thought of the crazies of 2012.
I shudder at the thought of the crazies of November 3rd.
LOL. Oh, R-tards, PLEASE secede. Go form your own country – The Stupid States of Jeezusland might be a good name – then you can legislate your ‘traditional morality’ and leave the rest of us alone.
Honestly. I think the North lost the Civil War. Apologies to my ancestors who fought for abolition, but that’s the only good that came of it, for us.
here’s the original article, UI. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/good_news_for_gop_and_great_ne.html
“Creation out of destruction”- that sounds more like Nietzsche then Ronald Reagan, more Nihilist then Conservative. So these maniacs are having their “we have to destroy the country in order to save it moment.” When some lunatic, after the election, takes violent action, these individuals will bear the moral culpability.
And Delusional David’s “Calling All Patriots” blog is just pure silliness and asshat worthy.
It is hard for me to believe that people who’ve been smoking dope and shooting at tin cans for their entire adult lives now see that as a political POV. They used to realize they were losers.
heragain, i agree. we fought to keep a major liability. Holding on to the south kep in america people who value ignorance, intolorance and seem wired to jump to violence. IN fact, with the expections of Carter and Clinton, i can not think of one good president who came from the Confederacy. (post war… i know all the previous good ones were virginia men) It is 150 years later and the South still hasnt caught up to the rest of the country. If they try and leave again, i say we help get all the normal people out and let the rest of em have their “real america”
Sarah Palin would make a great president of that nation..with Tim Profitt as sheriff and Beck as master of sewers.
I also think that she’s been taking hits off of Delusional David’s crack pipe.
Remember, Curly from WGOP said a couple of weeks ago that “there would be blood in the streets,” if they didn’t get their way on Election Day. Return Day could very well be a bit more dangerous this year.
When some lunatic, after the election, takes violent action, these individuals will bear the moral culpability.
Yet, they will deny it completely, while somehow I’m sure they will manage to blame it on Ginger Gibson. I have no idea how, but their logic will somehow manage to make it so.
Remember, Curly from WGOP said a couple of weeks ago that “there would be blood in the streets,” if they didn’t get their way on Election Day.
Another one who sees absolutely no culpability for what comes out of his mouth. See my previous comment.
I’ll blame YOU, RSmitty. I have no idea how, but my logic will somehow manage to make it so.
Steaksauce 🙂
I’ve missed you, Smitty.
btw, pandora, it is nice to see you back blogging and commenting more. I hope that it means you’re friend’s health is improving.
I’ve missed you, Smitty
I’m having a nice and peaceful lunch break today which allows me time to reflect and remember why I’m a RINO in the first place. It’s good therapy. In about three hours, I will need to detox from this falling off the wagon, tho. 😛
I’ll blame YOU, RSmitty. I have no idea how, but my logic will somehow manage to make it so.
Ah…good times, good times.
Sadly, A1, that’s not the case. But thanks for asking.
I have no doubt their rhetoric on the 3rd will be even more outlandish with proclamations of conspiracies and a call to arms. It disturbs me that they think this is a red state (have they not looked at registered voter numbers?) And are their any Dems for COD groups out there?? They are going to lose based on the numbers alone!
But that won’t matter, anon. And that’s what’s frightening. In their minds DE is a Red State, no matter the numbers. The 3rd is going to be nuts.
Today was supposed to be a dems for cod presser, but the NJ was banned again. Only out of state press, who won’t check registration, permitted.
Remember when “Red” still meant communist/labor and Blue meant conservative? “Better red than dead”? It’s funny to hear them talk about how everyone is red, and it’s a good thing, a statement which would horrify their John Bircher grandparents.
I’m still snickering that “Dems for O’Donnell” was 2 guys. 2!
Feel the Fauxmentum!!!!!
I heard a fascinating theory today. The narrative has been “it’s going to be a blowout against the Dems” but the polls aren’t really indicating that. The theory is that they’re even closer than we think, which is why republican establishment and media (fox, radio etc) is now a week before the election starting to float theories of the Dems “stealing” the election. Which may have partly led to the reaction agasint that poor MoveOn girl, us Libs are being sneaky! We’re up to something! That why, when it ISN’T a blow out (because it never was going to be since a bunch of the candidates are crazy) the R’s can cry foul that it MUST have been stolen (instead of Dems maintaining some momentum boosted by a revolt against craziest among the tea party) because obviously no democratic win can be legitimate.
I bet MONEY Christine doesn’t show up to Return Day.
im with you V – I bet she doesnt either – she cant snap her fingers for some “bitch” to come to her heels then and there.
She will be there smiling for the camera.
COD is me! I’m going through my voicemail this morning and lo and behold at timestamp 8:01pm I was robocalled by Christine to participate in a tele-townhall, FROM 7 TO 8PM. I knew she had no use for facts or the constitution, now it seems she transcends time as well.
V,
Some of the polls coming out have strange electorate compositions. I saw some criticism of a NYT/Time poll that had likely voters at 91% with 16% who weren’t registered to vote.
Some polls had no people under 30 and no minorities in the likely voter models and had a very large spread between RV and LV. In the latest Nevada poll they reported Angle up by 4 with LV but if you used the same mix of voters as 2006 you had Reid up by 8.
I just don’t know what to think of the polls this year. I think anything could happen. The consensus by the way is 55 House seats for the GOP and the Democrats with 51 or 52 seats in the Senate.
Thanks for dropping by Pandora. You are welcome anytime. Delaware is a blue state so don’t bother showing up on election day. It’s over anyway. 🙂
UI, that’s precisely why I (an under 30 voter who operates primarily by cell phone) have answered every pollster who’s called our house. They’re always from Florida, for some reason.
“I’m still snickering that “Dems for O’Donnell” was 2 guys. 2!”
“Medical Professionals for O’Donnell” is 5 MD. (well 4 MDs and an OD).
Ah, those fine “patriot” secessionists are at it again.
Gosh Smitty, and I thought you were my friend when I was posting at Charlies’ site. Well, politics as usual, I guess. 😉
I am delighted my prognostications have received so much attention, and invite all liberals to visit Daivd’s excellent blog at DelawarePolitics.net, where you will find, if you care to peruse my contributions, you will find I am anti-secessionist, among other things.
Do visit us and enter into a battle of wits–though we at DelawarePolitics are loathe to fight the unarmed.
Best to all,
Fay Voshell