Open Thread For June 4, 2017
How Climate Change Deniers Won Over the Rethugs: Start with Citizens United and the Koch Brothers and move on from there. Fake facts abound. Great piece in the NY Times.
The Tax-Exempt ‘Charities’ That Promote Propaganda and Fueled Trump: The REAL fake facts, often funded by the taxpayers.
Goldman Sachs D Targeted in New Jersey Race: Yep, he’s been ahead in the polls. Turns out he’s yet another Goldman Sachs politico. The Dems suck. Especially Jersey Dems.
Deadlock in Dover: Turns out that caving on the Rethugs’ estate tax repeal wasn’t nearly enough. What a shock. Schwartzkopf sucks as a negotiator. If D’s stick together, they can pass higher tax brackets on the wealthy and make them part of the negotiations. If D messengers are at least competent, which admittedly they haven’t proven to be, they can point out that draconian cuts will have to take place unless ‘shared sacrifice’ includes Delaware’s greediest. BTW, I feel like I’ve already written Tuesday’s Pre-Game screed. That’s OK, I’ll write it again. Can’t write it often enough.
The Latest From London: Thursday’s elections are still on.
What do you want to talk about?
If the US electorate doesn’t like Trump’s actions concerning the Paris Accord, then they can vote him out in three and a half years.
When you live in the US, your preferred “political agenda” may hit some road blocks from time to time due to the fact that we have two opposing political parties and set term limits on the Presidency.
We can always jump back in if a Democrat wins next time, right? Apparently it takes a number of years to pull out anyway, and the meaningful protocols don’t take effect for decades, so what’s the big deal?…Why are so many people literally acting like it’s the end of the world.
Shocking that Acting Governor Pete giving away the store before opening negotiations isn’t working. Who could have predicted that?
FBH: Let’s suppose that does happen. Trump is kicked out of office in 2020, and come 2021 the next administration wants back in the Paris deal.
I put myself in the shoes of any other world leader. Do I trust the US anymore to keep its promises? That hypothetical president could be kicked out in 2024. Then maybe s/he will withdraw from the deal again. That’s certainly a risk.
Then there’s broader diplomatic problems. How can I trust the US to keep any promise it makes for longer than 4 years? Why should I even go to the table with them?
Trump has done far, far more damage to the US on the world diplomatic arena than he has to the climate. We look positively schizophrenic now.
“Then maybe she/he will withdraw from the deal again. That’s certainly a risk”.
Not if the treaty/accord or whatever is taken through the proper legislative process instead of the way we entered the Paris Accord by executive action.
FBH: That’s exactly the problem. Anything even remotely resembling the Paris agreement would have been DOA in the Senate. Our political system is so polarized that we’re deadlocked on domestic issues, and that’s starting to bleed into the international arena.
Damn, trolls are still awake at 10:52 on Sunday night. When your only job is trolling, you don’t have to get up early on a Monday morning
What was that? Trolling?