Name Calling
Remember when the Republican National Committe was debating on whether or not to change the name of the Democratic Party?
In that vein, we should decide what to call conservatives because we all know they are anything by conservative.
My two favorites are:
- The Radical Right
- Christian Theocracists
Do you have ideas?
Tags: Radical Right
Well, we already call them the radical right. And I prefer not to use the adjective”Christian” in connection to them since they are far from Jesus’ teachings in nearly every way.
Well, they did pretty well for 30 years by calling us “liberals” and “extreme left.”
So I expect we can do pretty well simply calling them “conservatives” and “extreme right.” No need to make anything up, just call them what they are and they will add their own tarnish to the name.
Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives. So that is what we should be call them, and what they should in truth call themselves.
Perry, how would you suggest that we lump in the social conservatives? This confuses me.
The Hypocrite Party
or
The Willfully Ignorant Party
or
The Unicorn Party
Christian Neoconservative Party, otherwise known as the CNP. Sounds to me like something out of the old Soviet Union.
The problem with that is obviously not all of the neocons are Christian.
I still like the Neoconservative Party, since if is descriptive of their ideology, distinct from the Republican Party, which has lost all affinity to the party of Lincoln.
For the social conservatives, actually we figured this out 300 years ago; they are Puritans.
The Puritans never did figure out how to get along with the wealthy merchants.
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Why don’t we just call them adulterers and fools.
perry @ 6
Christian Neoconservative Party, otherwise known as the CNP. Sounds to me like something out of the old Soviet Union.
You’re getting close. How’s this for something out of the old Soviet Union:
The Christian Peoples Republican Party
No, the Republican Christian People’s Party (that likes to blow things up).
(the) “GORP” – (the) Grand Ol’ Rush Party
RSmitty, you need to change ur alias to iSmitty.
Except the ‘R’ is an actual initial, not a party, plus, if I were to say ‘ISmitty,’ I’d feel all TRONish and would have to dress up in a metallic suit with neon blue lines throughout.
I’ve got it . . . Christian Republicans of America Party.
And members would be called Crappers.
Guardians of the American Way.
Guardians of the American Way
Would there be a special uniform with lots of tassels?
Just call me a Taxpayer, and call it a day.
Guardians of the American Way, huh. Like traditionalists… slavery, misogyny, segregation, like that? Ya know “strict constitutional constructionists”. The stuff that was there originally…
How about the Alchemy Party… bright ideas for the 17th century!
I don’t know Dorian, alchemy . . . that shows a modicum of interest in science.
Maybe when Newton was doing it it did. Today it is indicative of a moron who continues to use and outdated, debunked way of thinking.
Nemski, I think you nailed it with “Theocracists”. I think adding the word “National” to the mix would help.
Heh heh DG. They’re building a bridge to the 17th Century.
The Party That Freed The Slaves From Their Democrat Owners
Sorry, but it doesn’t matter what you call a party, it is what they do and stand for.
The Dems are for taxes on working families, taxes on investment, larger more ineffective government, huge deficits and weak foreign policy.
The party of race car driver Ted Kennedy, cigar smoker Bill Clinton, family advocate John Edwards and Financial whiz William Jefferson.
The last thing we need are unprincipled liberals giving any advice on anything.
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Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives.erry: Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives.-Perry
That statement indicates a gross ignorance of contemporary politics. The gratuitous use of the ‘neocon’ term shows about the same level of intellect as the use of the ‘m-f’ vulagarity as a universal insult.
A neconservative is a reformed Liberal who saw the light. Some retained some cultural and even economic liberal views but switched on the basis of a strong issue.
This phenomenon was first noted in the early 1940s when many became disgusted with the excesses of Stalinism (especially after the Molotov-VonRibbentrop Pact) and abandonded The Party.
Conservative Democrats did not have to make any great switch when they obliged FDR to give the bum’s rush to Wallace.
The term did not come into general use until the Reagan Adminstration when people such as Jean Kirkpatrick came in from the cold. The term was used in a negative sense by long-term conservatives who feared that the newcomers would take over the Party.
David Horowitz was an example of s strong shift. He was more of a ‘Red Diaper Baby’ than Daviud Axelrod but there came a time when he could not ignore the ugly truth about some of his vicious associates (such as Huey Newton).
The roots of neoconservatism, which actually have ties to the Zionist movement, do not describe most of the diehards who deserve the current moniker. These are for sure card carrying Republicans. The party really does deserve to be renamed to be more consistent with current ideological reality.
Calling themselves the GOP is definitely another misnomer, as they are now unrelated to their roots.
The Neoconservative Party, or Christian Neoconservative Party — Either, yes!
Dead Man’s Party.
Leave your body and mind at the door…
But really call them what they are regionally, socially, and fiscally….Dixiecrats.
Once again we see that Perry is among those who defines neocon as “effing Jews and effing Jew-lovers”.
RwR, fiction writer. Perry said no such thing, and what you wrote was quite slanderous.
“Conservative” does not describe a political party. It is a philosophy. Edmund Burke was a conservative. In more modern times, Russell Kirk was an important contributor. Rarely are politicians anything more than on the periphery, although Reagan was a conservative.
I think Perry is fixated on Strauss and his gang of heretics.
Nemski@14 – well, they already have Sen. Crapo from Idaho.
Repub David – Shouldn’t that be Guardians of the American Yay?
Reagan was a conservative.
Cuz…it is “conservative” to run up record levels of national debt I suppose.
Reagan was a conservative.
Cuz… it is “conservative” to grow the federal gov’t to all time highs I suppose.
And Then Won Over Dixiecrats By Becoming As Racist As Possible.
Dead Man’s Party
May Oingo Boingo defecate on you for tarnishing their song.
Let me think this through…..Ummm…Lincoln…Last Frontier…Lost Frontier…yeh..the Lost Frontier Party.
And Smitty, you can too change from RSmitty to ISmitty, because MeJoanne :)…..
Dang. At first I thought you were giving me a hidden clue, but now I get it, it’s all about the pronouns!
Geez Smitty, the way you sign in now I’m thinking you represent Indian River!
Indian River, eh? A pox on you!!!
Infra-Red?
Simple: The Common Sense Party. We have it, and y’all don’t. 🙂
By the way, despite Perry’s suggestion of Neoconservative Party, that really doesn’t work well. The neocons are mostly social moderates.
The neocons are mostly social moderates.
PUKE! Dost thou pedestal thyself much?
“NEOcon” term came about from the Gingrich takeover of the party and specifically referred to the style he thrust upon the party. Yes, it was 15+ years ago, but that is the label. Wear it well, Dana. It’s yours.
Of course, if you would like to go ahead and disavow that people like Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike Eisenhower, etc. were ever part of the party, be my guest.
Given my past dealings with Perry, I stand by my assertion about his definition of neocon. Indeed, it is a definition shared by way too many liberals.
This is just too simple:
Conservative: The Right
Liberal: The Wrong
There that was easy.