In spite of how brazenly Republicans have decided to undermine the economy for their own narrow political ends, and in spite of the fact that even the so-called “moderate” Republican friends of John Carney never break with their leadership and reciprocate his affections – John Carney can’t shut up about how great it is to “work with” Republicans” and he even considers “sitting down with Republicans” his greatest accomplishment in congress. With “accomplishments” like that, who needs failures?
The upshot is that Carney has not given Democrats any reasons to vote for him. That is why I’m voting for the Green Party candidate Bernie August. I may even give money to the guy. But make no mistake – I am a Democrat.
I want Democrats to win elections because at the Party’s core, we are is still the party of the American working man. Also, when Democrats lose elections, that means Republicans win. And yet, in this case there is no downside to voting for the Green Party candidate. Rose Izzo cannot win. John Carney cannot lose. The only question is the margin of victory.
If Carney wins by one fewer vote this election, that’s fine with me. If two years from now he wins by 10 fewer…great. If, in some great and glorious future, Democratic voters eventually decide that their votes needs to be EARNED then eventually, John Carney will get the picture.
All three of our Federal Reps need have someone challenge them in a primary and push them hard to remind them what it means to be a Democrat. To late this year but Carpers turn is coming along with Carney
The obvious question is: if John Carney and Rose Izzo were locked in a very tight race, would you still vote for Mr August?
Fuck no idiot. Can you read?
Jason330….the ultimate angry liberal trash talker. Talks a ton, but when push comes to shove, too much of a coward to run against Carney as he said he would. I typically enjoy reading much of the content on this blog, but you couldn’t possibly be any more of a POS.
You are welcome.
I like this strategy Jason.
I’m not suffering under any delusions about the near term impotence of this course of action, but until I win the lottery, it will have to do.
Republicans without the vitriol they are
If Carney’s on the ballot, Bernie will get my vote in August, September, October, November and December.
There is a Green running for Treasurer too. Or is there some different calculus for the Treasurer’s race?
I think it would give Carney more of a jolt to run up the vote tally on Izzo.
Me too. And FYI, August has been cut out of the UD debates. Some democracy.
Jason – Your an moron. “I want Democrats to win elections because at the Party’s core, we are is still the party of the American working man.”
Look at your leaders!!!! They’re far from a “working man’s” background or salary…
Puck,
If Gree=money, then maybe that candidate should get serious consideration for treasurer.
As for boosting Izzo’s numbers, all that would tell Carney is that the GOP ‘s GOTV effort was succeeding — and that would swing him more to the right. Voting Green is a better way to show him how much he has drifted from his party’s core values.
@mediawatch – good point.
TK. I probably deserve that. The working man isn’t exactly a top priority, but the espoused values of the Democratic Pary are honorable even if it’s leaders are not.
Actually my question is a little different: you’re John Carney–you are over 52% in the polls (with 50% usually being considered the magic “invulnerable” number); your GOP opponent is at 17%–it takes her plus two third-party candidates to get to 28%.
So at this point, in Delaware, if you are a Democrat and you do not choose to go in a more liberal/progressive/whatever direction, then this means you’re not in it for the bipartisanship, this is your core belief system. You’re a conservative Democrat, and it is not the moderate GOPers that you can ignore, it’s the progressives.
This is not an act: this is who John Carney is.
Bonus: A vote against him in 2014 makes it harder for him to run for governor in 2016.
The Base at play:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119808/ebola-africa-and-twittersphere-haters-blast-senator-coons
@JM: They fear and hate everything they don’t understand, which is pretty much everything.
They always natter on about personal responsibility, but won’t take the obvious course if they’re that scared: Stay home.
You’re a conservative Democrat, and it is not the moderate GOPers that you can ignore, it’s the progressives.
I’ve been making this point on the regular, but what is missing is a way for progressives to focus Carney’s attention. It doesn’t help that the local media don’t cover these guys and their votes very well — because Social Security should be at the top of the questions these guys get right now.
Cass, I’ve been to the debates thus far, heard him on the radio, and I was on his teletown hall. He has gotten the SS question every time. It’s always one of the first questions.
So what does he say, then? Does he tell people that is a supporter of cutting back benefits?
Cass, I went to his website because I couldn’t remember everything word for word, but he doesn’t seem to have moved away from the op-ed he did earlier this year.
http://johncarney.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=517:news-journal-op-ed-social-security-shouldn-t-be-used-to-balance-budget&catid=13:press-releases-&Itemid=9
Typical wingnut boilerplate – “…we still need to make some changes to the Social Security system to keep it alive for future generations. People are living a lot longer today than they were when the system was first created. And because of the size of the baby boomer generation, the number of people receiving benefits will continue to grow much faster than the number of people paying in. So we have a math problem. When the Social Security Trust Fund runs out of money, the program will no longer be able to give seniors the full benefits they were promised. If we do nothing, the Trust Fund will run out of assets in 2033.”
Bullshit. But wait for it… what is Dr. Carney’s prescription?
“Bipartisanship is the only way to get things done in a divided Washington.”
Sure. That’ll fix it. What a fucking doofus.
Vote for Bernie August.
Jason////Your comments might have some value if you would clean up your act. Do you converse with the same vulgarity around women or your parents?
Show some respect for others.
I doubt cleaning up my Languge word make my comments more valuable.
No mention of Chris Coons’ “Committed to Bipartisanship” Facebook ads with a photo of the Senator and best buddy Marco Rubio? Why the selective treatment of Carney?
I can only fight one pointless, quixotic battle at a time.
@cassandra
what is missing is a way for progressives to focus Carney’s attention
In this, from a process standpoint, I think jason is correct. The only way for progressives to get the attention of the moderate and conservative Democrats in DE is to stop voting for their candidates and start supporting others as protest candidates. You’re going to have to risk causing the Democrats to actually lose a seat somewhere before they start listening to you. In that sense, if progressives want more than crumbs, they are going to have to look at how the tea party did it. And, yes, I realize that it is a strategy with large inherent risks for your belief system, but the status quo is running strongly against you right now, anyway.
So nice to see the protest vote discussed on this site.
“…we still need to make some changes to the Social Security system to keep it alive for future generations.
So why doesn’t Carney get behind raising the wage cap? (That was a rhetorical question, by the way). The answer, of course, is because he is a Republican.
When the Social Security Trust Fund runs out of money, the program will no longer be able to give seniors the full benefits they were promised.
Carney is lying with numbers and misleading the gullible. Social Security will NOT run out of money as long as people are paying into it. The “Trust Fund” is not a savings account. That’s not how it works, although there is a popular misconception that it does, which Carney is preying on in support of his Republicanism.
There will be a shortfall at some point which will need to be made up by raising taxes or cutting benefits. .Carney, being a Republican, has ruled out raising taxes. But Carney, being a coward, won’t come out and say he wants to cut Social Security benefits.
If we do nothing, the Trust Fund will run out of assets in 2033.
Nobody could be busier doing nothing than John Carney.
Puck, In the NJ article he does allow for the possibility of an increase in the wage cap, provided benefits go up and the Republicans that he “sits down with” say it is okay. But yes – he is 100% down the the GOP’s stance on the “insolvency” of social security.
SussexAnon – Make no mistake. I am a Democrat. But this is a special circumstance because it is literally impossible for Carney to lose to Rose Izzo.