Thursday Open Thread [10.24.13]

Thursday Open Thread [10.24.13]

A conservative is sounding the alarm: Ross Douthat:
[W]hile conservatives think the Obamacare exchanges are overregulated and oversubsidized, they are actually closer to the right-of-center vision for health care reform than the Obamacare Medicaid expansion, which is happening no matter what transpires with Healthcare.gov. So if the exchanges fail and the Medicaid expansion takes effect (and, inevitably, becomes difficult to roll back), we’ll be left with an individual market that’s completely dysfunctional and a more socialized system over all. In that scenario, the Democratic Party would probably end up pushing, not for the pipe dream of true single payer, but for a further bottom-up/top-down socialization, in which Medicare is offered to 55- to 65-year-olds and Medicaid is eventually expanded even more. Meanwhile, the task for serious conservative reformers — already not the most politically effective bunch — might actually become harder, because they would have to explain how their plan to build an effective, exchange-based marketplace differed from the Obama White House’s exchange fiasco.
Well, when you call a former Heritage Foundation idea of establishing a private market place for health insurance "socialism," what are you going to call actual socialism? LOL. Poor Republicans. They are just the petulant temper tantrum throwing boys who cried wolf.
Wednesday Open Thread [10.23.13]

Wednesday Open Thread [10.23.13]

Roll Call:
It’s hard to say which should trouble Republican Party leaders the most right now: the sour mood among GOP donors, or the money suddenly swelling Democratic campaign and super PAC coffers. Not only have the Democratic campaign committees that back House and Senate candidates outraised their GOP counterparts, but unrestricted super PACs that support Democrats have pulled in close to three times what GOP super PACs have so far, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Tuesday Open Thread [10.22.13]

Tuesday Open Thread [10.22.13]

John Judis at the New Republic says the Tea Party has been with us a long time:
Since the late 1960s, America has seen the growth of what the late Donald Warren in a 1976 book The Radical Center called “middle American radicalism.” It’s anti-establishment, anti-Washington, anti-big business and anti-labor; it’s pro-free market. It’s also prone to scapegoating immigrants and minorities. It’s a species of right-wing populism. It ebbed during the Reagan years, but began to emerge again under the patrician George H.W. Bush and found expression in support for Ross Perot and for Pat Buchanan with his “peasants with pitchforks.” And it undergirded the Republican takeovers of Congress in 1994. It ebbed during George W. Bush’s war on terror, but has re-emerged with a vengeance in the wake of the Great Recession, Obama’s election and expansion of government, and continuing economic stagnation.
This monster, like a zombie virus, is eating the Republican Party alive and tearing the diverse, and often conflicting coalitions therein apart.

Sunday Open Thread [10.20.13]

It's a glorious day outside! In case you are indoors today and looking for some interesting reading here are these possibilities: The Republican Civil War -- the Business Interests vs. the Teajhadis
“We are going to get engaged,” said Scott Reed, senior political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. “The need is now more than ever to elect people who understand the free market and not silliness.” The chamber spent $35.7 million on federal elections in 2012, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based group that tracks campaign spending. Meanwhile, two Washington-based groups that finance Tea Party-backed candidates said yesterday they’re supporting efforts to defeat Mississippi Senator Thad Cochran, who voted this week for the measure ending the 16-day shutdown and avoiding a government debt default. Cochran, a Republican seeking a seventh term next year, faces a challenge in his party’s primary from Chris McDaniel, a state senator.
That's right -- fight amongst yourselves.

Hey, a regular Thursday Open Thread [10.17.13]

No more titles with Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse references. Ah, it is so nice to get back to polling and random political stories and tidbits, at least for a while. Last night, as you know, Newark Mayor Cory Booker (D) was elected to the U.S. Senate over teabagger Steve Lonegan in New Jersey. This is a pickup for the Democrats, who increase their Senate majority to 55.

This was a complete victory.

And they got nothing. Oh yes, you will say that the income verification part of the deal is something they got, except that is already part of the Affordable Care Act. Only a delusional know nothing teabagger could think that a person's income would not be verified by the IRS to determine if their income was sufficiently below the legal threshold before they got subsidies. So in essence, what they got was an endorsement and an enforcement of Obamacare. LOL. Thanks GOP. Come inside to read what Ezra Klein says the Democrats got.....
One Day More Open Thread (Day 16)

One Day More Open Thread (Day 16)

A hostage crisis can end very badly, but when they end peacefully with no bloodshed, with no harm to the hostages, what normally happens at the end is that the hostage takers are forced to their knees with their hands up, and then they are ordered to lay down with their hands behind their back, which are then cuffed. The criminal is then violently jerked to his feet and frogmarched out to the police car. We Americans, as victims of a crime, are not going to get that closure.
Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 15: The Final Chapter?

Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 15: The Final Chapter?

The Republican Shutdown and associated tantrums have entered its third week. Day 15. As of this moment, we are 60 hours from a Republican Debt Default (the end of the day, or 11:59:59 on Thursday, October 17, being the deadline). We are at the verge of a Senate deal. We are also hearing this morning that the House GOP may vote tonight on its own bill, which I think is dead in the Senate and which I think will actually fail in the House (since no Dems will vote for it, and many of the Teabaggers will not like it). The contours of that deal are as inside, as well as what I think of it...
Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 14

Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 14

Today is Columbus Day (if you are in South Dakota, this is Native American Day) so much of the government (Feds and state) is REALLY closed, as are many other companies. But this is Day 14 of the Republican Shutdown and here is the state of the government as I understand it:
  • Obamacare is alive and no longer a GOP hostage
  • The Government is still shutdown and the GOP wants to keep it as a hostage
  • The debt Ceiling has not been raised and is still a GOP hostage -- although there are plenty of noises this morning looking to raise the debt ceiling
  • Various Federal parks or monuments are opening using state funds, and good luck getting those back from this Congress.

Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 12

Here is the current state of negotiations as I understand it:
  • Obamacare is alive and no longer a hostage
  • The government is still shutdown and still a GOP hostage
  • The debt limit is still a GOP hostage
  • White House talks with the House are done or stalled -- it looks like the President is not negotiating  with the threat of shooting hostages on the table still
  • White House is talking with the GOP in the Senate who are trying to get a 6-month plan to open the government and and the borrowing limit extended through January.
Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 11

Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 11

Here is the current situation from what I can tell: Obamacare is alive and it is no longer a hostage. The Government is still shut down and the House is still trying to keep it as a hostage. The Debt Ceiling limit might be extended a few weeks (maybe a few months), but the GOP is still trying to keep it as a hostage. The GOP is really being beat up in the court of public opinion.

Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 8

David Frum:
Barack Obama was never likely to be popular with the Republican base. It’s not just that he’s black. He’s first president in 76 years with a foreign parent—and unlike Hulda Hoover, Barack Obama Sr. never even naturalized. While Obama is not the first president to hold two degrees from elite universities—Bill Clinton and George W. Bush did as well—his Ivy predecessors at least disguised their education with a down-home style of speech. Join this cultural inheritance to liberal politics, and of course you have a formula for conflict. But effective parties make conflict work for them. Hate leads to rage, and rage makes you stupid. Republicans have convinced themselves both that President Obama is a revolutionary radical hell-bent upon destroying America as we know it and that he’s so feckless and weak-willed that he’ll always yield to pressure. It’s that contradictory, angry assessment that has brought the GOP to a place where it must either abjectly surrender or force a national default. Calmer analysis would have achieved better results.
The Frum piece is really a must read in its entirety.